[deleted post]Yes, comparing a company market share with an entire ecosystem. Genius.
Is like saying Mercedes is such a bad company, it doesn't have nearly the market share as Volkswagen Group. But Volkswagen Group has maybe 6 car companies in it.
If you want to be fair in your comparison, compare Apple and Samsung, Apple and Xiaomi, Apple and Motorola, etc.
Anonymous, 07 May 2023"Android don't have clueless users."
Strange, all my dad friends and connect... moreTrue. I recently sold my LG G6 to some girl's grandfather, who wanted the G6 as a sort of "upgrade" from his very old LG G3 or something.
When I posted the ad, most of the people who wanted to buy it were mostly middle aged to old people, with the exception of some young foreigners who were obviously broke af.
I cannot ever see youngsters justify buying a 6 year old phone.
[deleted post]Again look this Image https://www.counterpointresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Chart-Global-Handset-Revenue-Operating-Proft-PR-Q1-2023-4.png it shows very well how superior Apple is.
[deleted post]Why would Apple dream Android level marketshare? They are already winning in every metric which is important for a company 😆 Android companies keep getting leftovers just like it's been years.
You are getting so desperate 😂 i'm surprised you even came back
Anonymous, 07 May 2023By your logic we should stop all successful businesses, because they have too much money. &q... moreBecause the literal premise of buying Chinese phones was because they were cheap, now look at them with these new prices more expensive than even Samsung. No wonder.
Anonymous, 07 May 2023"Android don't have clueless users."
Strange, all my dad friends and connect... moreDon't mind these silly bitter Android kids they are comical at best. 😂 I already asked what happens if some switch side, does it mean they suddenly lose themself and all the knowledge they have.
For example my big brother is even bigger nerd than me and he was Android user for many many years, then he had enough money to buy iPhone and he's staying on iPhone and he have never owned any Apple devices before, does this mean he now just suddenly turned clueless non tech guy? 😆
Also my dad were Android user, he's very clueless about tech, my mom is Android user, yes she's propably most clueless person about tech or phones i know, then my grandmom is also Android user, she's also very clueless.
thedeev1, 07 May 2023This progress isn't surprising when Apple sells only high-end and rakes in €500 or more p... more"What about the Android makers who live with most of their sales having >€100 in profit, even though they sell way more units, though most are budget?"
Only Samsung is able to sell more units than Apple and even Samsung sales last q were down whopping 13 million units, Apple only sold two million less phones than Samsung Q1, which is something have never happened and not even close.
[deleted post]"Android don't have clueless users."
Strange, all my dad friends and connections (people above 65 years old, that have little ideas about smartphones), use Android phones.
And I never ever seen an old person with an iPhone.
Now, I am not saying old people are clueless users. But I doubt that they are tech gurus, lol.
You might want to reconsider your statement.
thedeev1, 07 May 2023This progress isn't surprising when Apple sells only high-end and rakes in €500 or more p... moreBy your logic we should stop all successful businesses, because they have too much money.
"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's".
Besides, companies like Apple or Samsung, didn't get where they are by luck or because people are blind and they are buying them without thinking, like many people on this site claim.
Why didn't Xiaomi get to that level? Even though they had a pretty good chance in doing so, even to reach no. 1. Because, they didn't have the same quality overall, in time. People where buying Xiaomi phones like ice creams in the summer, 3-4 years ago. Nowadays, fewer and fewer people are buying Chinese phones, but still buy Samsung and iPhones in large numbers. Hmm I wonder why?
[deleted post]You might want to recheck that, Android marketshare is steadily going down https://www.counterpointresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Global-Smartphone-Sales-Share-by-OS-1.png
Truth hurts, doesn't it? 😁 Android marketshare is currently lowest since it peaked 2019.
-Trix-, 06 May 2023That's exactly why i said very few.. 🤦🏻♂️ Why there's always urge for Android us... morewhy would I buy new android flagship when my a52s cost a third of the price with sd card and headphone jack with an efficient chipset? What does the S23 ultra really have that stands out from my a52s? A pen? A camera that hopefully isn't over-sharpened? A display that I have to spend a premium to get a screen protector for? It's like buying an 8K TV instead of a 720p TV, but the 8K TV displays in black and white while my 720p TV displays in full color. You would probably choose the 720p TV, right? I don't care too much if my phone has the fastest processor if it's memory can't be expanded or if it can't have a built-in headphone jack. Maybe if they made flagships have all the features that are on midranger as well I might buy a flagship again.
[deleted post]This progress isn't surprising when Apple sells only high-end and rakes in €500 or more per phone in profit.
What about the Android makers who live with most of their sales having >€100 in profit, even though they sell way more units, though most are budget? Yeah, exactly.
Anonymous, 05 May 2023Who are all these people buying iPhones 🤔Probably people who have a very old Android device broke or is getting very slow and they despise newer versions of Android (11 and up but ESPECIALLY 12), and they feel like getting an iPhone which is usually a no nonsense OS to use compared to the bloat you get with Android I mean Samsung if you count people in the States.
I personally hated iOS after iOS 10 was released since they screwed up the swipe up menu. iOS 9 app store is so much cleaner and simpler to use. Google play used to look so much cleaner but has been getting progressively worse since 2017.
Android 12 is also uncommonly joked as the Fisher Price version of Android. Make those buttons big, round, give it an ugly color, and include looots of padding! Also, keep removing freedom! Can't wait to root my new Android phone just to get around scoped storage! Oh wait, in the states, Samsung doesn't let you unlock the bootloader, so I guess that means I will buy an international phone, oh wait, that doesn't have as much bands that work in the USA, oh wait, there is LITERALLY NO OPTION to get a modern Android phone with the features it used to have that is a USA phone!
Nothing phone? No headphone jack! No expandable storage! No IR blaster!
Sony Xperia? What they heck is that display aspect ratio? I'm not buying a multi-thousand dollar phone just to watch movies on it!
Fair phone? Where the heck is that headphone jack? How is that fair?
Galaxy X-cover6 pro? Ok, not bad, but the A52s is MUCH CHEAPER, which makes the trade off for those bands worth it. Yeah, you can't replace the battery, but at least you won't risk cracking the back since it's not glass to replace the battery. Plus, $600 for a phone with only 128GB of internal storage? Also, it has Android 12. I don't want Android 12. A52s at least comes with Android 11.
Right now I have a device with a square screen (No notch or curved screen BS), removable battery, headphone jack, sd card slot, ir blaster, all of those STANDARD Android features that made people BUY AN ANDROID! Now you tell me why people like me would buy a modern bloaty expensive unupgradable jackless infused battery of a phone for thousands of dollars when I can buy a used phone on Ebay for cheap?
This strategy of Android makers CLEARLY isn't working. They aren't going to make people jump ship from iOS if ALL THAT IS NEW IS SOFTWARE FEATURES! Once they yoinked market share from Apple, they did the following:
Profits high hahahaha, lets cut more costs.
Todo: Remove all features that iPhone DOESN'T have
Mission accomplished. Now they have the SIM card next on the totem pool.
New mission: make Android "appeal" to everyone by making it lose everything that made it "Android".
I hate iOS right now, I hate modern Android right now. What can I do? Only thing I can do right now is to just keep on buying old phones I guess. Unless people create custom roms for older versions of android that are older than the version the phone shipped with which I literally have never ever ever seen.
Aadrian, 06 May 2023I think it's more because of the fact that since some years, the Android flagships are mi... moreWell said cuz Android manufacturers removing features following Apple phones... but also Android buyers are no Apple buyers as in just following what a brand does, people who just buy anything Apple makes no matter the price and that's not working for more price and feature conscious Android buyers who want features for money unlike Apple buyers who like the brand no matter what it lacks as long as it works fluently. That is why I only buy budget phones now galaxy A13 in use and suits me perfectly well for what I needstill have headphone jack and SD slot and it can do everything a flagship van apart from wireless charging.
If I'd be iPhone buyer I'd only go for SE series.
Aadrian, 06 May 2023I think it's more because of the fact that since some years, the Android flagships are mi... moreAnd same time every year Apple one by one removes reasons to buy Android flagship phones. Sametime Android haven’t got more appealing it still have all the same flaws it always had, so IPhone feels more and more appealing for potential customers and it shows in sales.
Adegbenro, 06 May 2023The endless iPhone versus Android phones rates on.
Several points to remember.
1: The peop... moreYou’re wasting your time dude, I’ve said similar on many occasions, it falls on deaf ears. The Android v iOS debate will never end so long as there are those that feel the choice they made is the choice everyone else should have made. And such people absolutely infest this site.
Personally I don’t have a horse in this race, whilst my preference is for iOS, I could switch back to Android tomorrow and not loose a step, just like I didn’t when I made to switch to iOS in the first place. Using what suits you best is a good thing, assuming that should apply to everyone else isn’t.
-Trix-, 05 May 2023Android fanboys just can't accept the fact that iPhone is what most want. Very few want t... moreI think it's more because of the fact that since some years, the Android flagships are missing so many features which were present at first, meaning those phones offered so much more value for money than the iPhone equivalent, that now since it's missing, there's less of a reason to buy a flagship when you can get pretty much the same features and more on a midrange Android phone. Another reason is the pricing, some years ago you could get an Android flagship for let's say 300 euro less with many extra features the iPhone was lacking, now they're all priced astronomically high that they pretty much cost the same as iPhones. I remember the iPhone X for a thousand dollars, while the Note8 was a thousand dollars too with a dozen of extra features. Now the iPhone 14 Pro Max is like 1400 dollars, while the S23 Ultra is 1400 dollars, both offering more or less the same features. Besides, I also might consider my next daily driver to be an iPhone now it also features some sort of AOD. Spec wise and feature wise there's little difference these days. It was different back in the day.
-Trix-, 06 May 2023"Trust me, Apple would go bankrupt." Wait what?!?! 😂🤦🏻♂️ True lol
DaFink, 06 May 2023Well, what what are you waiting for go tell them all! Finally then we’ll get to see the ‘Apple... moreLol
-Trix-, 06 May 2023Are you fourteen or something? Pirating everything? Don't know about you, but me and most... moreLol
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